Final Years Career Evening WMS Careers Group

Final Years Career Evening WMS Careers Group

Introduction • Who are we? – Student lead careers group – Existing members are from every year and even FY 1 Drs (the founders!) – Liaise with Witty Sandle, careers advisor. • Why are we here? – So we all have access to the same information – To stop the “rumour mill”

So what is happening tonight? • • • Introducing Witty Jargon busting MTAS explained (Naomi T) Foundation training in our Deanery (Mr. Higman) Career pathways (what does the future hold? ? !) Flexible training and training abroad (Dr Goodyear) • MPS talk • Meet some FY 1 doctors.

Jargon Busting! • What is. . ? – Deanery: 17 deaneries in the UK and contain FS (some deaneries are FS) – Foundation School: Administrative centre for application. – MTAS – MMC – PMETB

Deaneries and FS in the UK • • • • Northern Deanery: 1 (FS) North West: 1 Yorkshire: 2 South Yorkshire and Humberside: 1 Mersey: 1 Trent: 1 WMD: 5 LNR: 1 London: 5 Eastern: 1 Oxford: 1 Severn and Wessex: 2 South West Peninsula: 1 Scotland: 1 Northern Ireland: 1 Wales: 1 = 26 foundation schools

Foundation Schools West Midlands deanery has 5: – Birmingham North and South (Sandwell General, City, Good Hope and Birmingham Heartlands and Solihull, Selly Oak, Queen Elizabeth, Birmingham Women’s, Birmingham Children’s & The Royal Orthopaedic) – Black Country (Dudley, Walsall, Wolverhampton) – Coventry and Warwickshire (GEH, Walsgrave, Warwick, St Cross) – Shropshire and Staffordshire (Burton, North-staffs, Mid-staffs, Shrewsbury & Telford) – Herefordshire and Worcestershire (Hereford, Worcester Royal, Redditch Alexandra)

Importing or Exporting? • If exporting, produces more students than posts available e. g. London • If importing, not enough students produced to fill posts • Information will be available on MTAS website for each foundation school when we apply

Jargon Busting! • What is. . ? – Deanery: 17 deaneries in the UK and contain FS (some deaneries are FS) – Foundation School: Administrative centre for application. – MTAS – MMC – PMETB

MMC • Responsible for setting up the new career framework for doctors • Initiative started in 2003 in response to concerns about “lost tribes of SHOs” • The new career framework will be discussed in more detail later…. .

PMETB • PMETB – Postgraduate Medical Education Training Board • Oversee all training of doctors after medical school – Major body putting foundation and specialist training in place – Allow for improved flexible training, overseas opportunities • ‘Control’ over doctors who are currently nontraining posts – staff grades, associate specialists

Modernising medical careers: What comes after foundation years? Victoria Robinson and Theodora Vatopoulou

F. A. Qs • When do I apply for run through training? – During F 2 (this year in Jan) • How does application work? – Centralised application, open competition – 2 specialties, 2 deaneries (this year) • Does it matter what I do in my foundation years? – NO! So don’t stress – But, being proactive in getting experience in your chosen field may help. • Where to royal college exams fit in? – Currently under debate – Discouraged in foundation years, may be needed later in training

Specialist training • Also called “run through training” • Most programmes will be initially broad-based (eg medicine), becoming more specialty focused over time (eg cardiology). • Every specialty will have a run-through training programme, lasting from approximately three years in general practice to five – seven years in other specialties.

Specialist Groups for initial 2 years run through training (ST 1/2) • Acute Care Common Stem (ACCS) • Anaesthesia • Basic Neurosciences Training (BNT) • Chemical Pathology • General Practice • Histopathology • Medical Microbiology • Medicine in General • O&G • Ophthalmology • Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery (OMFS) • Paediatrics • Psychiatry • Public Health • Radiology • Surgery in General • Otolaryngology (ENT)* These are very likely to change before we get to this stage e. g. ENT!

So I want to do medicine….

Exceptions… • Acute care common stem. • Neurosciences (neurology, neurosurgery etc) Both start specialist training at end of F 2.

So I want to be a GP… Application for GP training F 1 F 2 VTS 1 3 x 4 month jobs hospital CCT VTS 2 VTS 3 2 x 3 months hospital 6 months GP 1 year GP

What about general surgery? CCT MRCS Part 1 F 1, F 2 ST 1 MRCS Part 2 ST 3 number of years depends ST 2 on specialty chosen (Probably 3 -5 years) Competitive Entry Fixed Term Specialist Training Competitive Entry Career Posts

Academic Medicine • Not very clear yet • Not required for career progression. • All physicians in training will achieve generic skills in research. • If interested in an academic career you can compete for specific allocated research training posts when in BMT, ST and when in HST (medicine). • BMT and HST trainees (with deanery/college approval) can apply for time out of a programme to pursue funded research projects, but must return to complete training within a specified time.

Stay up to date!! • MMC website: www. mmc. nhs. uk – Links to all deaneries, info on application process, FY 1 & FY 2, • Royal college websites • MTAS website: www. mtas. nhs. uk • Student BMJ • See WMS career webpage – Follow link from societies page. Loads of info currently being uploaded. Watch that space!!

Future final year careers events • Friday 20 th October: CSB (instead of SAHD) – 1 -2 pm Witty and Naomi to talk about the MTAS application process and what makes a good application. – 2 -3 pm Dave Gow from MLP to talk about careers, a free book for everyone (and lots of money for the grad ball!) • Medical speciality evenings (TBA) all years – Acute medical evening (November 2006) – Women’s and child health (February 2007)

Thank-you!! • Guest speakers • Our sponsors – MPS – BMA – Warwick Medical School Development and Alumni Office • Medical school office (Mick and Jane)