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Conference Highlights David Williams TERENA Networking Conference Thursday 8 October 1998 David. O. Williams@cern. Conference Highlights David Williams TERENA Networking Conference Thursday 8 October 1998 David. O. Williams@cern. ch Slides: http: //nicewww. cern. ch/~davidw/public/TERENA. ppt

Top level outline n n n Report on ICFA-NTF Personal view of future Summary Top level outline n n n Report on ICFA-NTF Personal view of future Summary

Acknowledgements n n n The ICFA-NTF report describes the work of 31 people from Acknowledgements n n n The ICFA-NTF report describes the work of 31 people from 21 different institutions (of which 8 universities) in 11 countries spread over three continents The people who provide the networks which we use (inside institutions, regionally, nationally, internationally etc. ) The “real users” who took time to answer our questions and provide comments

Monitoring Monitoring

Packet Loss (1/2) n n n Packets are discarded when the router buffers fill Packet Loss (1/2) n n n Packets are discarded when the router buffers fill up and overflow When packet flow from input link(s) exceeds the capacity of the output link(s) Especially at ends of (expensive) transoceanic links Packet loss rates (PLRs) are about the best approximation to what the end-user feels is the overall “quality” being provided by a link But note that PLR measurements don’t tell the network engineer much about the nature and the location of any congestion that is present on a link (so not widely used by them).

Packet Loss (2/2) n n Different applications stop working at different PLRs. E-mail “always” Packet Loss (2/2) n n Different applications stop working at different PLRs. E-mail “always” works. The more a session is interactive (telnet, X) or depends on delivery of many packets without much jitter (audio, video) the lower the acceptable PLR. As a general rule of thumb: <1% is excellent 1 -2. 5% is good 5 -12% is poor 2. 5 -5% is ~OK >12% is unusable

The intercontinental issue The intercontinental issue

Quite detailed history is available by clicking on each entry Quite detailed history is available by clicking on each entry

Daily packet loss structure on a congested route 8 quiet hours at night From Daily packet loss structure on a congested route 8 quiet hours at night From ~01. 00 to 09. 00 CET 50% peaks Thurs Tue Mon Sun Wed Fri Sat Sun

Close to (national) perfection Most of the following data is for the seven day Close to (national) perfection Most of the following data is for the seven day period 13 -19 August 1998 Because most students are on holiday and there have been some recent capacity upgrades, there is less “daily” congestion than “normal” at the moment, especially on the transatlantic links. Things will probably start to get worse in September.

Fermi to SLAC No packet loss ~55 msec RTT ~2000 miles? Fermi to SLAC No packet loss ~55 msec RTT ~2000 miles?

DESY to Dresden No packet loss 25 -30 msec RTT, with bumps, a few DESY to Dresden No packet loss 25 -30 msec RTT, with bumps, a few to 100 msec ~500 km

Close to (international) perfection Close to (international) perfection

CERN to NBI Copenhagen 13/3360 packets lost 60 -90 msec RTT, with regular jitter CERN to NBI Copenhagen 13/3360 packets lost 60 -90 msec RTT, with regular jitter ~1000 km

SLAC to KEK 1/3360 packets lost 180 -250 msec, some jitter ~10, 000 km SLAC to KEK 1/3360 packets lost 180 -250 msec, some jitter ~10, 000 km

CERN to Osaka, standard dates 23/3360 packets lost 330 -400 msec RTT. ~20, 000 CERN to Osaka, standard dates 23/3360 packets lost 330 -400 msec RTT. ~20, 000 km (via USA)

Some problem cases National Some problem cases National

CMU (Pittsburgh) to Cincinnati 10. 37% packet loss over month of July 50 -100 CMU (Pittsburgh) to Cincinnati 10. 37% packet loss over month of July 50 -100 msec RTT, with heavy daily congestion 400 miles? ? No data available for standard dates Sat Sun

More problem cases International More problem cases International

Fermi to Madrid Broken Classic congestion Monday Fermi to Madrid Broken Classic congestion Monday

Longer term plots Longer term plots

Some longer term plots of difficult cases Period is normally 3 months up to Some longer term plots of difficult cases Period is normally 3 months up to 20 August National

Fermi to Brown (15 April to 25 August) ? ? Packet loss 16. 15% Fermi to Brown (15 April to 25 August) ? ? Packet loss 16. 15% in April, 0. 05% in July. They changed their ISP!!

CNAF Bologna to Perugia Packet loss only 3 -4%, but RTT goes wild CNAF Bologna to Perugia Packet loss only 3 -4%, but RTT goes wild

Some longer term plots of difficult cases International Some longer term plots of difficult cases International

CMU to DESY Packet loss ~15% CMU to DESY Packet loss ~15%

CERN to ITEP Moscow (month of July) Packet loss only 3. 44%, but RTT CERN to ITEP Moscow (month of July) Packet loss only 3. 44%, but RTT degrading

SLAC to IHEP Beijing Packet loss 15 -20% SLAC to IHEP Beijing Packet loss 15 -20%

Monitoring - conclusions? Monitoring - conclusions?

Monitoring conclusions n n ESnet is an example to us all. It is wellconfigured Monitoring conclusions n n ESnet is an example to us all. It is wellconfigured and provides very good service between ESnet sites. Many of the national nets in Europe and Japan also do a very good job. They are, however, not normally as well-configured as ESnet. The problems come when you hit congestion. Normally caused by saturation, often on crossocean links. You need “headroom”

Recommendations Recommendations

Inter-continental links (1/3) n n ICFA should encourage the provision of some considerable extra Inter-continental links (1/3) n n ICFA should encourage the provision of some considerable extra bandwidth for ICFA traffic, especially over the Atlantic A workshop should be held a. s. a. p. , preferably in October 1998. Would be best if someone “more global” takes the lead, but we cannot wait for ever. . . – Participants: - ICFA labs and universities; NRNs, TEN-155 and EU in Europe; I 2 + ESnet + ? ? in USA; bandwidth and service suppliers; other disciplines – Broad objective: n try to simplify complex arrangements over Atlantic n see how Qo. S/DS etc. could improve situation for general traffic and disciplinary traffic – More specifically: n review first tests with Qo. S/DS over Atlantic n review Europe/US gateways and look for improvements n coordinate arrangements for “labelling” traffic n better coordination of transit and global cost sharing (first discussions? ? ). Maybe better after first Qo. S/DS pilot projects.

Submarine cables Submarine cables

The next set of slides are selected from presentations by the Project Oxygen management The next set of slides are selected from presentations by the Project Oxygen management at a recent Data Gathering Meeting They are publicly available on the Web. TM

What is Project OXYGEN? n n n A global optical fiber cable Network 158, What is Project OXYGEN? n n n A global optical fiber cable Network 158, 000 km of cable: 150, 000 submarine, 8, 000 terrestrial 100 landing points in 73 countries and locations A flexible routed network 3 Network Management Centers Unprecedented international bandwidth

How is Project OXYGEN different? n n Pricing independent of distance and destination Network How is Project OXYGEN different? n n Pricing independent of distance and destination Network rather than point-to-point system True bandwidth on demand with flexible routing rather than fixed circuits Planned global infrastructure

World Class Sponsors n n n Alcatel Network Systems TYCO (ex-AT&T SSI) NEC Mitsui World Class Sponsors n n n Alcatel Network Systems TYCO (ex-AT&T SSI) NEC Mitsui & Co. Sumitomo Corp. n NTT International Corning Lucent Technologies. n JP Morgan (financial advisors) n n

Costs Costs

July overview (to countries where we would normally expect “good” performance) July overview (to countries where we would normally expect “good” performance)

July 1998 overview to countries where we might expect problems July 1998 overview to countries where we might expect problems

Personal comments n n Networking, telecoms and the EU are all complex topics Since Personal comments n n Networking, telecoms and the EU are all complex topics Since many people don’t want to disagree openly, they often try to hide their disagreements in impenetrable arguments and complex language. Working in that environment can be very tiring/frustrating. As scientists and/or engineers we (I) prefer to say what we (I) think, and disagree, if necessary. I believe that providing excellent Internet service during the whole period 1999 -2002 is a basic

Can we (the people in the room) do anything to help? (1) n Keep Can we (the people in the room) do anything to help? (1) n Keep lobbying that a good pan-European research network needs to be openly accepted as a fundamental component of FP 5. We need to do a better selling job on: – – – n University heads Fellow researchers (scientists and non-scientists) Politicians & civil servants Telecoms and Internet suppliers Industry and commerce Note that we have still not managed to create the US synergy between all of these groups.

Can we (the people in the room) do anything to help? (2) n Personally Can we (the people in the room) do anything to help? (2) n Personally encourage competition for service provision in the liberalised era after January 1998 (or whenever it arrives chez vous). Especially competition for European infrastructure. n Greece, Ireland, Luxembourg, Portugal and Spain have a variety of waivers concerning the dates by which they must implement full competition. n For the provision of alternative infrastructures, where competition across the bulk of the EU started already in July 1996, the extensions authorised were only for a few months, with Greece being the last to liberalise, at the start of October 1997. n For voice telephony and networks, where the normal starting date was January 1998, the extensions are somewhat longer, with

Can we (the people in the room) do anything to help? (3) n n Can we (the people in the room) do anything to help? (3) n n Lobby for a pan-European telecoms (and Internet) regulator. In the future this will be the only way for Europe to act quickly enough to protect its economy in the Internet era. Start to think about the whole European A&R community buying in greater bulk. For national and international lines. For services? ? This will be very difficult, but could have a huge influence on prices.