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Points of pain Campus vs backbone Bill St. Arnaud bill. st. arnaud@canarie. ca Points of pain Campus vs backbone Bill St. Arnaud bill. st. [email protected] ca

Backbone operator perspective > NB: CANARIE operates a very small IP backbone – Our Backbone operator perspective > NB: CANARIE operates a very small IP backbone – Our major focus is operating a “substrate” network to support a number of virtual lighpath networks – APNs > Many of our departments and users on campuses have multiple independent connections to CA*net 4 and other networks – – – Medical-health-HIPAA Physics Astronomy Various Grids – backplane and frontplane connection Distributed campus networks > We are seeing many APNs dedicated to specific community of interests which extend from user desktop to desktop right across the country

Canada HEPnet APN TRIUMF Tier 1 UBC Physics Uo. Victoria Physics Tier 2 TRIUMF Canada HEPnet APN TRIUMF Tier 1 UBC Physics Uo. Victoria Physics Tier 2 TRIUMF APN 1 G Interface WS Uo. Toronto Physics Tier 2 UA Physics 5 G Interface WS Uo. T Physics Uo. T APN Toronto 10 G Lightpath WS Ud. M Physics Carleton Physics External links or APNs Amsterdam Vancouver Edmonton Montreal Uo. V APN Ottawa Victoria CA*net 4 New York Geneav Chicago Note: Typical View on TRIUMF UCLP GUI FERMI Tier 1 Brookhaven Tier 1 CERN Tier 0

Parallel Campus Production & Research Networks- Rutherford Geant / Super. Janet 4 / TVN Parallel Campus Production & Research Networks- Rutherford Geant / Super. Janet 4 / TVN Access (2*1 Gbits/s) R-Po. P Sites Router B RAL Site Access Router Netscreen Firewall 8 Gb/s UKLIGHT (2*1 Gbits/s) “Lightpath” to CERN via Nether. Light Router A UKLight Access Router C RAL LHC Tier 1 Centre Source: Robin Tasker Networks and Communications CCLRC

Production & Research Networks at UCL Source: Andrew Kerl UCL Production & Research Networks at UCL Source: Andrew Kerl UCL

Points of pain- RONs and NOCs > Many of our users have direct optical Points of pain- RONs and NOCs > Many of our users have direct optical connection to the backbone with NICs using long range GBICs > RONs and campuses want to “manage” the link and insert devices in the middle of the all optical link which makes it less reliable and poorer throughput > First point of contact is not local IT dept > Certificate authority and authorizing server is often off campus for many campus research groups – HIPAA – Grids – APNs > Federations good idea – but really hard to implement

Virtual CIO and virtual NOC > Increasingly networks and security issues are neither geographical Virtual CIO and virtual NOC > Increasingly networks and security issues are neither geographical or local domain – i. e. Jacob Forum > Outside organizations are setting standards within “your” network – In fact it may be no longer “yours” > CERN NOC is setting standards on OS, Id. M, routing, network connectivity at campuses > Look at Skype security standards – Skype sits above the “network” > The “old network” is becoming increasing irrelevant > The pervasive Internet is coming because of SOA & Mashups – Google, Skype , Cisco IPICS, SOA etc